Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

Hey AVF,
So I purchased a bunch of Vision Spinner II's for myself, friends & family. Had a great experience right up until I had to charge it. It seems like it just isn't holding charge?

I thought it might just me (chain vaper, lol) but my partner and her friend also said that their battery life for a 1600mah battery doesn't seem to last as long as they think it should.

Bit of background:
* I charge mine overnight every night (had it for about 2 weeks now)
* My tanks an Aspire ET BDC, 1.8 Ohm set to no more than 4.3V
* Partner also says after a full charge, her spinner 2 goes blue (

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

I don't know if it will help, but from elsewhere in this forum:



I've never used a spinner 2 so didn't even know they made 1600mAh versions (mines an old 1300mAh purchased from an.com vendor and never had any problems and it lasts for a couple of days at least.)

Where did you buy it from? If somewhere like fasttech then it's probably a fake like their ego twists are anyway.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

i cant really help, but, i suggest you dont let them charge overnight, its not all that safe.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

Vision spinner has good reputation among users
I agree with that it's most probably a fake one

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

Nah brah she's cool ;P It's got a protected PCB board to keep it in check, plus 1600mah takes 5-6 hours to charge anyway. side note; The Kanger USB charger also checks voltage whilst charging (The green flash while charging every second).



I would have agreed and been like "yup! bloody fakes!" but I source everything directly from the manufacturer. I don't use fasttech for that exact reason She's a 100% genuine unit. Just found it odd it didn't seem to last as long as I though it may have :/

 

ALAS!!! My charging issues appear to be cured!
Weirest bit, its not the USB adapter :/ I was the wall adapter all along!

Heres the profile;

Switching Power Adapter
Model Number.:WRP06U-050050U
Input: 100-240V ~ 50/60hz 0.2A max
Output: 5V 0.5A

*Wall Adapter has a EU/US Plug, used a.com adapter mabob to use an canuk wall socket*

BONUS is that I still RETAINED AND USED my genuine Kangertech USB adapter, profile below;

CHARGER
Model EVOD USB charger
Input: DC 5V
Output DC 4.2V 400mA

Ive used it to fully charge twice now, looks promising. Charges all the way through the coloured LED's without having to unplug the Spinner and re-plug it in multiple times. Charge seems to hold for MUCH longer (White all day long, 2nd day goes blue, haven't hit orange yet!)

The down side: I don't know a shop that stocks these wall adapters tho, I got mine of a Vision Distib. I'm sure it will be easy to find using the above details however. If theres enough EOI I'll buy a heap of them and post them to people (co-op I suppose?)

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

and FOCharlie totally agree, not happy about the paint already peeling off the firing button.. grrr..

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

You can use iphone or samsung, lg wall charger they have 1amp rating so you should be able to charge no problems.

vapeon

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

Most people including myself have been using these for ages with all eGo batteries no problem. But it seems that the new vision spinner 2 has issues. Charging stops and the battery needs to be reconnected.

I have yet to test with a 0.5A wall adapter (I do have one though) as rindey has but will post results as soon as I do.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

Just a word of .comtion peeps, I'm no expert on this matter BUT please only use chargers that are designed to support the required output (amps/volts, all that jazz aka apple chargers, I'm looking at you!)

I can only assume - an Apple chargers with a 1 amp output, and a battery with a .5 amp input can equal a catastrophe! Charging too fast on lithium batteries can be dangerous!

Stay safe ya'll

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

I bought a genuine wall adapter with the genuine EgoT starter kit from VB back in March, is this the kind of adapter your talking about as the one that seems to work?

Haven't yet bought a spinner or fatboy and after this will wait further but would be nice to know if my 420mah ego charger can be used for other batt's too.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

buy one of these sucker designed to charge these batteries

5V Micro USB 1A TP4056 Lithium Battery Charging Board Charger Module | eBay

Vapeon

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

The 420mah usb adapter is not the problem here I think. It's the wall adapter. It should be a 500mah (0.5A) charger, not an iPhone or Samsung one which are more powerful.




Not sure how this solves the problem. The Vision Spinner 2 uses an ego charger. His will this connect to it?

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

I'll post a photo up tonight. Seems like theres enough interest I might order 20 of the bad boys and peeps can just PayPal me or Pick Up in the Berwick Area. PM me if interested!

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

You are correct in that these charger adaptors are not 100% efficient so you will need a wall adaptor capable of supplying greater than 480mA. An 85% efficient charger would require at least 565mA from the wall adaptor.

However you are incorrect when you state that more powerful wall adaptors should not be used. Any wall adapter capable of supplying the minimum current required (at a well regulated 5V) will do. In fact the more powerful wall adaptors may even be better as they will only be operating at a fraction of their allowed load and will not heat up or suffer regulation problems.

Having a more powerful wall adaptor than required will not change the maximum current drawn by these types of chargers.

Source: I am an electronics technician.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

Not true. No one connects the wall adaptor directly to a battery. The Apple charger with 1A output (from your example) supplies a charging circuit that will only draw what is required to safely charge the battery.

The only specifications required are a correct regulated DC output voltage (5V for the USB tyes) capable of supplying at least 500mA. A 1Amp or 2Amp 5V plug pack would be fine.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

I've been using 1A and 2A chargers for ages on ego batteries and phones that don't require that much power. Never had any problem. I also understand that a more powerful charger will not make it charge quicker, as the adapters or phones circuitry will not allow that.

The issue here is that the Vision Spinner 2 is having problems when charging, and it shows as full long before it's fully charged. So we are trying to troubleshoot the problem. Supposedly using a 0.5A charger would fix this problem.

I tried a 0.5A charger the other day but still it didn't charge all the way and I had to reconnect it. So this solution wasn't valid and the wall adapter itself isn't the issue.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

Would have to agree with everyone on the battery life being disappointing. Where I used to get a full days use out of my ego c twists, I am using both my spinner II's in the same day.

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

For when im out and about i use kanger 1300mah twists, I charge them with s standard kanger usb charger *input: DC 5V, Output: DC 4.2----400mA As to the wall adaptor I just use an apple charger.

I have had no problems at all. Kanger usb charger turns red when i put it on charge and then turns Green when full charged. I guess i dont use the vision spinner 2 so i cant chime in on the charging problems, However the Kanger 1300Mah twist still lasts quite a while, same as the 1300mah vision fatboys.

So are these charging problems due to the really high mah ratting on the spinner 2's? and they new PCB in them e.t.c?

Just skimmed through this thread and saw a couple people saying apple iphone charges are no good for a standard kanger USB changer?? Is this true or is it just purely having problems with the spinner 2's?

 

Vision Spinner II & Charging Issues

using apple or samsung charger with more amps will not damage your batteries as the ego charger would have a voltage regulator built in it.