Black fire & vanilla bean

Newbie question here for all the experienced mixers out there.

I recently went in a concentrate co-op and thought "well I'll order what seems to be the most popular" which turned out to be black fire and vanilla bean. So I'm very happy about getting these two as a start.

Question is ...... What recipes can I use them in apart from just using them straight ? What percentages and combos ? I realize I will have to invest in some other concentrate flavors to go with them, but what ? Would like to keep things relatively simple at this point in time maybe between 3 to 5 additional concentrates?. Also for using the two of them together or individually what would you recommend?

Is there any sort of chart somewhere (eg like a colour wheel ?) for newbie mixers?
I know it's all about experimentation and individual taste which is part of the fun, but some sort of direction to begin with would be great.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
Sodd

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Mate the vanilla bean Im not sure of since Im not a great vanilla fan. The black fire though you dont need to mess with, that stuff is heaven just as it is. Im sure you would have noticed it was on almost everyones list, I think from memory only one person didnt order it.

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Hi Coal miner,
I figured it must be good which is why I went for it . Lol.
What percentage would you recommend ? 2 or 3 % like most tobacco flavors I have read about or is it a stronger or weaker concentrate?
Thanks
Sodd

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Im not sure on these super concentrates mate as Ive never used them before. I guess its just a case of start with a little and work out what suits you. Im hoping mine turns up tomorrow before I have to go back to work otherwise I have to wait a week to get my hands on it.

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

hey I found this but I know there is better one out there but cant find it as yet, i will keep searching

Almond pairs well with: apple, apricot, banana, caramel, cherry, coffee, fig, honey, orange, peach, pear, plum
Apple pairs well with: caramel, cardamom, chestnut, cinnamon, cranberry, currant, ginger, hazelnut, mango, maple, rosemary, walnut
Apricot pairs well with: almond, black pepper, caramel, cardamom, ginger, hazelnut, honey, orange, peach, vanilla, plum
Asian Pear pairs well with: almond, apple, black pepper, cinnamon, ginger, honey, macadamia, nutmeg, raisin, vanilla
Banana pairs well with: caramel, cherry, chocolate, cinnamon, coffee, ginger, hazelnut, honey, mango, molasses, papaya
Blackberry pairs well with: apricot, black pepper, cinnamon, citrus, hazelnut, lemon, other berries, peach, plum
Blood Orange pairs well with: almond, cardamom, chocolate, cinnamon, clove, fig, ginger, honey, other citrus
Blueberry pairs well with: other berries, cardamom, mango, lemon, hazelnut, ginger, fig, lavender, other citrus
Caraway pairs well with: apples, cabbage, pears, .comerk.comt, allspice, almonds, cardamom, chili, cinnamon, coriander, fennel seed, juniper berry, onion
Cardamom pairs well with: citrus fruit, ice creams, nuts, mango, allspice, almond, cardamom, chili, cinnamon, clove, coriander, cumin, fennel seed, ginger, mustard, star anise, turmeric
Carrot pairs well with: anise, cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, walnut
Celery Seed pairs well with: tomatoes, allspice, black pepper, caraway, chili, cinnamon coriander, cumin, fennel seed, ginger, sage, turmeric
Cherry pairs well with: apricot, black pepper, chocolate, citrus, nectarine, peach, plum, vanilla
Chestnut pairs well with: apple, caramel, chocolate, coffee, pear, vanilla
Chocolate pairs well with: oranges, nuts, Allspice, almond, aniseed, cinnamon, clove, curry leaf, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, lemongrass, mint, nutmeg, onion, vanilla
Cilantro (coriander) pairs well with: apples, apricot, berries, cherries, citrus, nectarine, peach, plum, tropical fruit, Allspice, Cardamom, clove, coconut, cumin, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, sun-dried tomato, tumeric
Cinnamon pairs well with: apples, bananas, cantaloupe, .comliflower, chocolate, corn, curries, grapes, oranges, winter squash, allspice, caraway, cardamom, clove, cacao, coriander, cumin, ginger, mint, nutmeg, star anise, sun-dried tomatoes, tamarind turmeric
Clove pairs well with: apples, cakes, chocolate, orange, pumpkin, red cabbage, allspice, cardamom, cacao, coriander, cumin, ginger, nutmeg, star anise, tamarind, turmeric
Coconut pairs well with: banana, Brazil nut, caramel, chocolate, citrus, Kaffir leaf, lemongrass, pineapple, other tropical fruits, Allspice, basil, black pepper, cumin, curry leaf, garlic, ginger, lemongrass, sun-dried tomato, turmeric, vanilla
Cranberry pairs well with: apple, chocolate, cinnamon, citrus, mango, mint, pear
Currants, Black and Red, pairs well with: cassis, chocolate, citrus
Elderberry pairs well with: apricot, fig, honey, lemon, mandarin, other berries, peach, plum
Feijoa pairs well with: banana, berries, cinnamon, citrus, mango, vanilla
Fig pairs well with: almond, black pepper, cinnamon, citrus, hazelnut, pear, vanilla
Garlic pairs well with: basil, caraway, chili, coriander, cumin, curry leaf, marjoram, mint, mustard seed, oregano, parsley, rosemary, sun-dried tomato, thyme
Ginger pairs well with: almond, apple, apricot, banana, berries, Brazil nut, caramel, chocolate, citrus, coconut, grape, hazelnut, passion fruit, peach, pear, pineapple, plum, tropical fruit
Gooseberry pairs well with: citrus, hazelnut, honey, other berries, white chocolate
Grape pairs well with: chocolate, citrus, ginger, raisin
Grapefruit pairs well with: basil, black pepper, caramel, citrus, mint, rosemary, thyme, tropical fruit, vanilla
Guava pairs well with: citrus, lime, coconut, huckleberry, kaffir leaf, pineapple, strawberry, tropical fruit
Hazelnut pairs well with: apple, apricot, banana, berries, caramel, cherry, chocolate, citrus, fig, mandarin, peach, pear, plum
Kaffir Leaf pairs well with: banana, citrus, coconut, lemongrass, tropical fruit, watermelon
Kiwi pairs well with: apple, banana, berries, cherry, citrus, coconut, mango, tropical fruit
Kumquat pairs well with: berries, cherry, chocolate, cinnamon, coffee, persimmon, plum
Lemon pairs well with: apricot, berries, black pepper, cardamom, cherry, citrus, ginger, nectarine, peach, plum, prickly pear, tropical fruit
Lemongrass pairs well with: cherry, berries, citrus, coconut, ginger, guava, kaffir leaf, coconut, tropical fruit, vanilla
Lime pairs well with: apple, berries, cherry, ginger, papaya, plum, strawberry, tropical fruit
Lychee pairs well with: citrus, ginger, gooseberry, tropical fruit, vanilla
Mandarin pairs well with: cardamom, cherry, chocolate, cinnamon, coffee, fig, ginger, nutmeg, tropical fruits, vanilla, star anise
Mango pairs well with: apple, banana, berries, caramel, citrus, coconut, melon, tropical fruits, vanilla, cinnamon
Melon pairs well with: berries, citrus, lemongrass, lemon verbena
Orange pairs well with: almonds, basil, berries, brandy, cherry, chocolate, cilantro, cinnamon, coffee, cranberry, fig, ginger, grape, hazelnut, mint, nutmeg, persimmon, pineapple, vanilla
Papaya pairs well with: citrus, black pepper, lime, mango, tropical fruit
Pear pairs well with: almond, apple, caramel, chestnut, chocolate, cinnamon, citrus, ginger, hazelnut, vanilla, walnut
Persimmon pairs well with: apple, black pepper, cinnamon, citrus, kumquat, pear
Pineapple pairs well with: basil, caramel, cilantro, coconut, macadamia, rosemary, tropical fruit
Plum pairs well with: almond, cinnamon, citrus, chestnut, black pepper, hazelnut, honey, vanilla
Pomegranate pairs well with: apple, citrus, cucumber, mint, tropical fruit
Prickly Pear pairs well with: citrus, lime, tomatillo, tropical fruit
Raspberry pairs well with: apricot, cinnamon, citrus, ginger, lemon, nectarine, other berries, peach, plum, rhubarb, thyme, vanilla
Rhubarb pairs well with: apple, apricot, berries, black pepper, citrus, ginger, nectarine, peach, plum, strawberry
Strawberry pairs well with: apple, black pepper, chocolate, citrus, coriander, mint, rhubarb, vanilla
Tomatillo pairs well with: berries, citrus, mango, prickly pear, tropical fruit
Walnut pairs well with: apple, apricot, banana, caramel, chocolate, cinnamon, nectarine, peach, pear, plum, rum

the other i was talking about has tobacco flavours and menthol in it this is just mainly fruits

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

I have been using some Black Fire to fix up all my yuck nutty tobacco's--ie--Golden Virginia, USA Mix, make's them vapeable

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Good stuff mate its a pretty good vape on its own as well.

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Try black fire at 2% and vanilla bean at 0.5%

I reckon it might come out allright.

Do you have any French Pipe?? That stuff is awesome. If you do, try 1% black fire, 1% french pipe and 0.5% vanilla bean.

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Thanks peoples,
This is exactly the feedback I've been looking for. Thanks CMB, French Pipe is now on the list. Phoenix, you are invaluable. Have cut and pasted this in to my recipe word document ! I think this is 3/4 the battle on DIY, trying to get things that go together without spending a fortune to work it out on your own. Saxien, man (or gal) after my own heart ..... I don't like to waste anything either and have some of what you suggested. Will do. Coalminer, will give what you suggested a go as I have recently read that the concentrates coming are different to the small bottles you normally buy (2 types of black fire). Same with the vanilla bean.
Cheers
Sodd

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Hey mate you still havnt told us what you think of your new stash

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

" French Pipe"
I forgot that one, it is one of the worst peanutty based one's Iv'e yet tried, I think all these taberone based tobacco's taste the same, some worse than others, I rem trying out JW's tobacco sample pack some while back--they are still in the drawer, if it wasen't peanut's it was pinocleen

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Are you talking about the super concentrate? I get tobacco with a hint of choc and vanilla?? No peanut

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

I don't believe so, they were all made up as a doubler in the sample pack, I simply could not vape them however hard I tried, this was when I first started vaping

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Ahh ok might have been the famous Dekang French Pipe or Squashed Frog as Stoney liked to call it, was fricken awful.

The super concentrate stuff is really nice though, nothing like it

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

I think that range was discontinued by JW some time ago-don't know what she was using back then but it was terrible-to me at least

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

TS, I could tell you what to do with those concentrates but then I would have to kill you be.comse the recipes are sworn to secrecy just like the 11 herbs & spices thing

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Which brand of e-liquid is this? I love the Vanilla Bean Ice Cream from TFA but got scared off by popcorn lung.

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Try looking in Juicefactory.com for super concentrates.
They don't have Vanilla bean though, I don't think & it is not ice cream flavor in any case.

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Raw Ingredient Molecule Ethyl Vanillin

This MIGHT be an option but some care would be needed to achieve the suggested concentration of 200 ppm (0.2ml saturated solution added to 999.8ml of carrier liquid I think)

 

Black fire & vanilla bean

Noe do you mean Juicefactory.com.com?