Boge carto tank experiment

got some syringes .. 10ml ones make a 2ml tank, 20ml makes a 4ml i hear. Can't get 20ml locally yet.

Mildew has tried it with punching 4 holes in the carto with a screw, hole < 1mm.






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Nice, looks good Stoney, are they the seals from clark rubber or did you find some others?

 

they are the plunger seals from the 10ml syringe (discard one whole syringe apart from seal)
I used an 8mm hole punch the first time, but seal gets .comght up .. tried a 9mm punch, better but still a little awkward to get the seal in.
Drilled syringe base out at 10mm, air gets .comght between the lower seal and the syringe base, its tricky to get out.
The method of using a carto to actually punch the hole is probably best but not tried that yet. I was going with the idea of a tight seal, but squashing it all back into the syringe would suffice in hindsight.

Mildew is using his with the wrapping still on the carto with no leaks.
These seals are much softer than the clark rubber grommets.

 

I use the syringe seal with my CE2 XL clearo tank and punch the hole in it using a dead attie. I haven't tried a carto tank. Do you think they would be much better than a clearo? Is it also possible to remove the guts of the carto like you can with a clearo?

 

Stoney, did those tree roots come out of your house drain pipes?

 

no tree roots in pic, some of blues wood collection found around the yard, a piece of palm frond and a piece of gutter guard foubd under a bush i chainsaw pruned last week.

to johny.. I much prefer the taste of these to the clearos .. though I am yet to try a tank mod.
The insides are not removed, just a slot cut or holes punched to allow juice to get in via the side.
It would not work with the outer removed, thats the air guide.

 

I agree about the taste of the clearos and I was almost going to throw out the ones I had until I made a tank mod. I think the wicking in the clearos is too restricted especially with VG but in a tank they work very well and it's what I now use most of the time.

 

The link from the pic takes me to your Photobucket album.
Pic #13 of 35.

 

heh, believe it or not .. that was out of the gutter. It was hiding behind a eucalytus tree that was always blocking that side of the house and my ladder wasn't tall enough to reach, I had given up on cleaning that part of the gutter.
Chainsawed the tree and that thing fell over sideways taking the gutter with it.

 

Ha, Ha, the joys of acerage living.

 

i get syringes from the vet.just tell em your using them for bubbles in your vinyl floor at home.dont know the sizes but they have heaps of em.and cheap.

 

Just a question, how do you keep the atty from flooding? Does the filling around the atty stop it from flooding?

Cheers

 

Not sure why but flooding just doesn't seem to happen, I've had mine sitting on the bench half full with PG juice for nearly a week (been playing with other bits) and there's not been the slightest bit of leakage or flooding, just tried it then.

 

only time I have seen any leaks is when filling. I take the device off and syringe fill while holding it upright, that way the air escapes through the slot. Filling it the right way up, you are pressurising the tank and as much will come out the battery hole as goes into the thing.

If anything, every one I have made so far runs too dry. Still experimenting with the slot and different carto brands.

 

I guess they don't flood/leak be.comse the carto still has the filler inside. Like donbozza, mine has been rolling around on the desk for the last few days, still half full and not a drop in sight.
I must make a correction though, I did tell Stoney I used a 20ml syringe, when in fact it was only a 10ml. I guess mine holds a little more be.comse I used thinner seals (rubber washers from a "Fix-A-Tap" pack).
I do have a 20ml syringe here which, when cut down, would end up holding 7-8ml.

EDIT: As Stoney just brought it up.. I tend to be a juice hog and this system is the only thing I've found that can keep up with me. The slot method doesn't always work though, having had some that don't wick fast enough - maybe the heat from cutting .comses the filler to harden and not wick? I'm not sure.
It matters not though as I've found the punched method is quicker, cleaner, and works consistently well.

 

Punched method ?

 

This:

Don't even have to take the plastic sleeve off.

 

syringes are easy to get from the chemist just say u are resupplying the office first aid kit, I personally dont have this issue as my chemist will sell just about anything(except psudopedrine or however its spelt) can these tanks be made for a ceramic ce2? iv never actually seen inside of one so dont know what they are designed like.

 

better off by removing the whole shell with the CE2 .. aka MAP tank etc.

Update on the one I made with Mildew method yesterday, punched 4 largish holes in the base of the carto, left tape on, then deliberately avoiding any dremel work .. cut syringe at 1ml and 8ml marks with hacksaw, punched holes in seals with an old carto.

this one holds over 3ml with a new carto.

worked fine for half a day, then ran really quite dry, turned out I still can move the seals up and down the carto and actually go up high enough to miss the holes. This seems to have stuffed up the carto a bit so now it will gurgle if turn on the juice so to speak, but I can turn it off again by sliding the whole tank up and down the carto.
an advantage of the punched holes, less likely for the seals to catch on the holes in the carto.

been running this one up to 4.7V (3.1Ω)

next attempt .. putting the holes a bit higher on the carto, nearly half way up .. putting either smaller holes or less of them, i think maybe just 2 holes, you probably can't get the holes to close to the centre as it will be very tricky to fill without a substantial amount of juice dripping out the carto. At the moment I hold the whole thing upright while syringe filling.

 

I bought some 10ml syringes on ebay a couple of days back - the 2 local pharmacies are run by geriatrics who really should spend more time road testing their laxative stocks!

Hopefully I can now find a use for my stock of rather unloved Boge cartos.