Menthol DIY

I'm sorry if someone has asked this already.

I couldn't find it easily.

Can i ask how many grams of menthol to add to pg solution to get it to 20% menthol concentrate? (does 1gram of menthol crystals = 1ml?)

should i add koolada as well?

do i heat the pg and menthol crystals and simply let them dissolve....and is it ready to use or should i let the concentrate steep for a bit?

thanks heaps.

 

I wish I could help. I never got it right, managed to burn my lips by making it too strong. There is a lot of YouTube videos but most that I found said just keep adding until its strong enough.

 

Quick & Easy Menthol Drops : DIY_eJuice

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Crisscross what happened when you made it too strong? couldn't you just dilute it some?

how bad was the burn? just a feeling of bad sensation or serious damage?

KK thanks heaps for that info i think it'll really help

 

The burn wasn't that bad but it scared me off. It knocked out my tastebuds for a while. You could dilute it but I just didn't want the same experience so I played with koolada and then went with menthol doublers from VK. At least I knew what the strength was. Now i only mix straight menthol with spearmint for my secondary vape so I don't bother with the concentrated forms.

Be careful it is powerful stuff.

 

thanks heaps CC

i hear you. i'm looking for some people that have managed a non burny menthol mix. No offense!!!

i found this Brain Freeze | Electronic Cigarettes - VapingMadElectronic Cigarettes – VapingMad

and http://forums.canukvapers.com/e-cig...-forum/6029-menthol-crystals-good-vape-6.html

so i'm going with a 20%menthol crystal in pg solution to make a menthol concentrate that i will add to mixes at 1drop/5ml, maybe more to taste.

That's when i get the crystals. In the meantime i got some menthol concentrate and koolada from vaping cobra. that'll do me for a while...

any ideas on how to mix menthol crystals in the concentration required will be greatly appreciated.

I saved those pages you linked KK thanks heaps.

 

for anyone else that ever wonders the density of

propylene glycol is 1.04g/cm cubed
menthol crystals is 0.89g/cm cubed

now if only i was good at math i could work stuff out properly!!!

i think this essentially means that 30ml of pg = 30 x 1.04g= 31.2g

now if only i could turn this into an equation that'll give me a 50ml bottle of pg with 20% menthol crystals. I know that grams = ml's when density = 1, however both my ingredients = just over one, just under one........mmm...i need someone smarter than me for this one.

so what i *THINK* is that 10ml is 20% of 50...which means to get 10ml or menthol crystals i need to divide 10 by 0.89 giving me 11.236.

if i minus this from my 50ml i get 38.764 which i times by 1.04 but only to get me the grams...i dun need the grams of that though cos it's ALREADY in solution...so maybe i just throw

11.236grams of menthol crystals in 39ml of pg? and hope for the best?

 

I guess you will have to keep trying till you don't get it right.

 

lol. thanks a bundle.

just trying to figure out how to use this...

DENSITY

 

That was the process I went through and in the end put crushed crystals to what looked about 1/5 th volume in a bottle and then filled the bottle with pg. the crystals dissolve and that's what I then used at 5-10% For a straight menthol. When I added to existing flavours I would add drop by drop and then taste.

 

fair enough. maybe it is the only way...i'm sure there is a way to make it to a percentage...i just wish i was better at maths...

 

CC how long do you leave your menthol vapes steeping for?

 

Your doing better than I did with menthol crystals, I just rough guessed, strong, but good, ( and my eye sight/hearing returned eventually ),

 

lmao....exactly the answer i was looking for....a way to blast my senses senseless...

 

As I wrote in the PM, there's nothing wrong with doing it w/v rather than w/w. As you can see from the specific gravities of PG and VG it's not going to make *that* much difference.


I recommend you go w/v be.comse the maths is easier. You'll get better and more consistent results in the end be.comse it's harder to stuff the maths up. I think you'll find if you buy already dissolved concentrates instead of crystals it will probably be w/v. If in doubt, ask the vendor.

 

I haven't worked with the menthol crystals before. I have menthol in solution from a few different vendors though.
Do the crystals dissolve?
As a guess, I'd think you'd start of with a small amount of solvent, and then keep adding the crystals until you reach saturation.
Then use that liquid (possibly using alcohol as a solvent for the menthol?) to add to your PG/VG to make a x% solution.. Then experiment with very minute proportions of this liquid in your eliquid.

This is just a guess, though. I've yet to look into how to use the crystals themselves.. following along here to hopefully learn new stuff too >smile

 

I got my crystals from vaping cobra.. would probably be worth dropping them a line to ask how to get them into liquid form.. I haven't had much to do with them apart from buying their stuff, but I believe that the people are incredibly helpful and were looking at setting up DIY classes for vapers.. if anyone does write, I hope you'll come back here and share the info with us.

 

Some good general information about menthol crystals here: Menthol Crystals

 

I got some menthol crystals from Korea, I used vodka to dilute, that is all,,,,, numbers hurt richo brain box,,,

 

lol you crack me up mate.

yeah i'll definitely come back and share stuff once i have solid info.

as for dissolving i've seen info that suggests it can be dissolved in greater concentrations than 100% in alcohol if you know what i mean? and 50% in pg.

a warm water bath is used to dissolve the crystals in pg, and that was the method i was going to use.

so far my best guess is 20% menthol crystals (with a density of 0.89, i guess that's close enough to 1 to just go with weight/volume) so in a 50ml bottle i'm planning on putting 10grams of crystals with 40ml of pg, and then in the hot water bath to dissolve.

this should make a concentrate that is SUPER strong...so no more than 1 drop per 5ml...at least to start with...i'll take it from there.