Volumes of base vs flavour vs nic

Simple volume/maths question (not a calculator question):

Is a 24mg 100% PG nicotine flavourless base technically like 95% PG due to the volume of nicotine added, or is like 99.9% PG, or even more like 75%?

Does that matter? Is it only like 4 drops of nicotine to 396 drops of PG so effectively its 100%?

The same question for doublers, 100% VG doubler surely has a part of the total volume taken up by non-VG flavour drops, so doublers are actually say 75% VG and 25% flavour drops?

Say one ends up with 45% PG, 45% VG, 5% nic, 5% flavour, Does this ever matter when mixing?

Am I overthinking it?

 

You are overthinking it a bit mango.

The amounts of different components really add up to not much at all. As long as you are mixing according to the directions of whatever product you are using, it doesn't really matter.

Just mix, vape and enjoy dude

 

LMAO Mango, just calculate VG as VG & everything else as PG for ratio & you'll get a decent vape mate

 

Filbert's vaping toolkit. Great juice calculator.

Filbert's Vaping Toolkit

 

Hi

I put a combo in Filbert's calculator and was hoping you can give me some advice.

If I order a doubler from Vapeking at 70%PG&30%VG and my nic is 36mg at 75%PG&25%VG and I want the finished product at 18mg and 70%PG&30%VG it says it can't be done and I get a negative PG.

Am I doing something wrong or am I reading it wrong?

Wayno

 

No, the problem is your two things (nic and doubler) are a higher PG ratio than the one you want to end up with.

You have 70/30 doubler + 75/25 nic...........it's impossible to get 70/30 from combining those two ratios.

Does that make sense?

You can solve the problem by lying to the calculator, put in that your nic is 70/30 and just do what it says. I don't think difference is worth worrying about. Then all you need to do is add your nic to your doubler in equal amount (15ml of double/15ml of nic) and you'll be fine.

 

If I lie to the calculator it's easy be.comse it just says 5 ml doubler & 5ml nic

If I wanted to adjust the PG&VG should I have bought the nic as just pure PG or VG?

The shipment will not be processed until tomorrow should I change it?

 

Yeah, I would. Maybe it would be better to get 50/50?

I think the general consensus is to get 100% PG unflavoured nic, then you can add whatever VG you need. But this only really works if you have 100mg/ml nic strength.

If you get 36mg/ml and are using it to make doublers at 18mg/ml then I would order the nic at whatever PG/VG ratio you plan on vaping, and also make sure you get your doublers at that ratio as well. That way you never have to do any calculations, simply combine your nic with the doubler in equal amounts and you are set.

It gets confusing when you haven't made a firm commitment to a PG/VG ratio that suits you. If you want to experiment, and/or make up different strengths and ratios, then I would definitely get 100mg/ml in 100% PG.

 

Thanks all, if you couldn't tell my OCD-ness from my juice vendor lists.....all good.

Once I get through my dozens of pre-mixed samplers (I went a bit ocd-verboard), I'll start mixing. At least I've got a good idea of what I don't like from all the pre-mix samplers.

=)

 

I found by dropping the target nic to 16mg it can be done with the nic base of 75%PG & 25%VG

 

I don't worry about pg/vg exact levels, if I'm making juices just for myself I'm pretty slack even with the measuring of the concentrates, the only thing I'm particularly careful with, is the nic levels. Even then, I don't get worried over an error margin of +/- 2mg, its easy to dilute later if too strong, or increase the nic if not strong enough. The amounts needed don't really change the flavour much. I try to keep the overall pg/vg at about 30/70 but an error margin of +/- 5% also doesn't seem to make a huge difference to the end product. I know there are people who have a more sophisticated palate, and would pick these differences, but for me they aren't such a problem

If I was manufacturing juices for others, or as a vendor, then the need for the product to be replicable to an exact standard would be required.

BTW, ejuice me up is the best calculator I have found, it also allows for storage of your own recipes, and notes, so if you do make a great tasting juice, by accident, at least you have a record of what went in it. I also keep a record in a little note book, hard copies are always good to have, if your computer crashes you can still mix your favourites

 

Thanks Spud

This PG&VG has got me confused lol, I think I will stick to my nic that I ordered which was 36mg and 75%PG/25%VG ( I think that was what NOE recommended for beginners )

The doublers I ordered from Vk are 70%pg/30%vg I can get a final mix of 70%PG/30%VG if I drop the nic strength to 17mg if I don't the calculators say it can't be done as it is negative PG at 0.3ml

So confusing