Stepping down Nic Levels

Hi All,

Been Vaping 4 months now. Used to be very heavy smoker and always smoked strongest tobacco I could get (Winnie Reds, White Ox etc)


The only thing which got me off smokes was 0.2 ohm Herakles with 15 mg juice. I was vaping 10 plus Mls a day.

After few months got down to 0.5 ohm coils with Kanger mini still 15 mg juice but levelled off to vaping 6 Mls a day so total nic consumption was 90 mg per day.


I've just started stepping down. Mixed up month supply (well what I thought would be month supply) at 12 mg.

I'm in 4 days and vaping up a storm - 10 to 12 Mls a day again - at least I'm with 0.5 ohm coils still although I feel like ripping out the Herakles 0.2 ohm again.

That means even though I've stepped down nic level in juice from 15mg to 12mg my daily nic consumption has actually increased from 90mg to at least 120mg (10 mls X 12 mg)


Any advise was this ? Should I step back up to 15Mg ? hoping it will level out with time as it did when I first started vaping.


Cheers, Jeff


(Current Mix - Capella V2 custard flavour at 6% from Juice Factory - single flavour only which suits me - USP 70vg 30pg from Wicked wire - and 12 mg of nic from Myfreedomsmokes)

(Current Hardware - Kanger Mini with 0.5 ohm verticel kanthanl coil on a IPV-D2)

 

Gday Jeffro dont be in a hurry to cut back on the nic if you were a heavy smoker i was the same
neally 3 years and still vape 30 mg but im not chasing clouds either i use 1.5 ohm coils and 80pg/20vg flavourless
its just for the nic hit for me to stay of the stinkies

 

Cheers, I'm already getting the nic bottle out ! No need to rush as you said.

Ps I stole your quit calculator - cool, I didn't realise how much I had saved

 

do it in your own time. your body will let you know when it's time to reduce the nic.

 

Don't try to rush it. I've started with 20mg nic and decided to cut back by 5 every week. Needless to say, I just couldn't do it that fast and I started again doing 20mg and take it slow. Currently I'm at 10mg and I don't feel like cutting it back even more. When time comes I will know.

 

Here's the thing. If you add more, you will want more. You have to hit a point where you're either cold turkey, or you NEVER increase the dose. Increase the dose, increase the desire, slip back into habit. Your goal is just to get the withdrawal down to as weak of a force as possible so you can break it, or to take 3-10 days to purge it out of you in a healthy way. Once you stop "needing" it, its so much easier!

 

This is something I would really like to see more information on. I know it's very much an individual thing, but is there some sort of statistical analysis somewhere that shows how long it takes the 'average' person to go from max level to 0 nicotine? For now I'm buying the 24mg nicotine, and feel like that isn't really strong enough most of the time. Yes, I used to be a very heavy smoker, and I still top up with the occasional cigarette. If there is no analysis done on this, how long has it taken others to reduce their nicotine fix?

 

It always strikes me as strange how people alter their levels, rather than just consumptions. No matter how heavy a smoker someone is, they still all take in the same level through the cigarette just some have more cigarettes. I assume everyone would use near universal strength coils, but the variation is massive.

 

I'd imagine that people would find it harder to alter their consumption, as they'll usually have been smoking on a set routine or pattern for a number of yoears, so when they switch to vaping that pattern will stay the same.

If they can keep vaping as regularly as they used to smoke, then by lowering the levels they can have the best of both worlds.

 

That is how it worked out for me, and I am guessing that that is the approach that most people take. It really just all depends on the person and what levels they can go from to what they are looking to get out of it. I know of a lot of people who have to intention at all of reducing their nic levels, and others who are trying to get down to zero. Whatever floats your boat I guess is the best way to go.

 

When people first start vaping, I think it is a matter of trial and error as people get used to it. For many, not only do they have to try the different flavours and strengths that are available, they also have to try and balance that with quitting cigarettes aswell.

Once you've found a level your comfortable with and you've also managed to cut out the cigarettes altogether, that's when you can then decide what your going to do in the future about your vaping.

 

You have to remember that it's connected to 3 things: Your willpower, your withdrawal, and your access. If you have no access, you will be purged of the addiction naturally, but you may not purge the behavior. If you have withdrawal, you may never purge the behavior because the withdrawal pushes against it. Your willpower is the only element you always have under control.

If you have high willpower, it goes faster. If you have low willpower, it stalls out and you probably fail - moderate willpower is just average results, which has more to do with withdrawal and access.

If you have high withdrawal, it goes slower. If you have low withdrawal, it goes faster. If you have normal withdrawal, you get normal results, which has more to do with withdrawal and willpower.

If you have high access, it goes slower. If you have low access, it goes faster. If you have normal access, you get normal results, which has more to do with withdrawal and willpower.


somebody get me a post of the year trophy hudumphadumph

 

Why would you be getting a post of the year trophy? Do you plan on writing a good one soon? Haha

Seriously though, your willpower is always the deciding factor when it comes to anything, and we're all different when it comes to that.

 

I'd agree with those on this thread who say don't rush it. I believe vaping is SO much better than cigarettes for you that it is okay to take time to lower your nicotine level. I started at 24mg for the first few months, then dropped to 18mg and stayed there for almost 2 years as I was going through a very rough time personally and was scared I'd start smoking again. Now that my stress levels have lowered down a bit I've been able to gradually drop down to 6mg.

Also: Note that you can lower levels more gradually by mixing a bit of nicotine free juice or a lower strength juice in with whatever level you are currently using.

 

That's pretty much what I was saying when I said we're all different. We can choose the best way to do it that fits best for us and if decreasing gradually works in regards with the nicotine then that's the way to go for you.

 

I agree the objective is to become nicotine free, if you decide to go a little faster or a little slower, it's up to you. Just as long as you stop taking in nicotine.

 

When we all start vaping then I think that's the main objective, to be able to cut down on the nicotine intake over a period of time.

Every one of us will be able to cut down, but we'll all take various lengths if time to do it depending on how easy it is for us to ignore the cravings, just like it would be if we was gradually cutting down on the cigarettes without vaping.

 

The cool thing about most of the vaping pens is that you can regulate the amount you vape, unlike cigarettes. So you can choose how much nicotine you take into your body.

 

On most of the pens you can, but I wonder how many people actually do that though compared to how many people just try and not vape as much?

Being able to regulate in theory means that you can still vape but control the intake but I think most people won't use that and will just cape as and when they want but without controlling it. I know I do anyway!

 

I think that most people don't bother. They will treat it as if it's a smoke, when you need it you vape, but if it feels like it's too much just don't vape as much.
I honestly didn't know you could do that until I came onto this forum, since I was a beginner I used it as if it was a cigarette.