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I heard that Vaping is Bad for you?

Discussion in 'Vape Talk' started by John Lacy, Mar 6, 2016.

  1. pwarbi

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    Instead of articles coming out and saying how bad vaping is for you, I'd prefer to see more coming out and looking at the positives instead.

    While research into vaping is still on going, I've no doubt that there's enough information around already to prove its a lot better for you than cigarettes are, and maybe that needs to be concentrated more on.
     
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    The thing about vaping is that it's just unnatural for the body, so of course there are consequences. The point is that, if ever there was a way for you to quit, if ever there was a way for you to ENJOY quitting, this is it, right here. If you want a perfect life, you have to eat perfect, sleep perfect, live perfect and have zero bad habits. People focus on vaping without all the other bad stuff people can do because its so easy to criticize.
     
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    Propaganda is the right work. We can call it marketing, advertising, whatever, but the fact is that many claims are not sustained on facts, so what are we doing in those cases?
     
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    Asking for a more solid proof or, most likely, just ignore it. Right?
     
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    Just like drinking beer. You know it's not good for you but you drink it anyways. You might get conscious about it and decide to drink lite beer. I think vapeing falls into the same category here. You still get the hit, but its a bit watered down.
     
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    Exactly, you can't expect to do something to your body that isn't natural and expect your body not yo react to it. I think that moderation is they key.
     
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    Moderation is the key when it comes to most things in life, and just because something might be bad for us, if we enjoy doing it then we still can, just as long as it's in moderation.

    Life would be a bit boring if we just did what we was told and what we knew was good for us, we need a bit of enjoyment at least otherwise as we get older we might start to regret not trying things when we had the chance.
     
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    As an ex-smoker and vaper of three months standing, I feel healthier and fitter. I no longer have a smokers cough, my tongue is no longer slightly furry occasionally and I don't smell of cigarettes. I'm no doctor but I'm old enough to know when I feel healthier, and I feel healthier than I have done in the last ten years. I've heard stories about dangerous juices and the general consensus amongst my vaping friends is that any dangerous juices that might exist are all made in China, cheaply, and without proper safety procedures. Based on my experience with Chinese exports in the past, this wouldn't surprise me at all, although I don't know if it is actually true. I do know that any product being sold in the UK is fairly rigorously tested before its ever allowed to get onto the shelves and I have no doubt that the US and all other developed Western nations have similar safeguards to the consumer in place. I've noticed several ardent anti-vapers making comments online, and if you actually read what they say, they don't really make any points of any real substance at all. It seems like propaganda to me and theres no way on Earth I'll ever be puffing on tobacco again as long as I can vape. Vaping isn't safe if you are consuming nicotine, but its a lot safer than smoking tobacco.
     
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    There does seem to be a scare campaign by the government when it comes to vaping, and this just might be me being cynical, but is that maybe because it's in their best interests that people carry on smoking cigarettes?

    The amount of tax that the government gets through people buying cigarettes and the manufacturers themselves is enough for them to want us to carry on, and not try any alternatives.
     
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    Well, I really can't say the right course of action, but they also said cell phones caused brain tumors and everyone still uses them right?
     
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    In the UK the relative benefits of the tax from smokers is now being outweighed by the cost to the NHS. All those people who smoked back in the 60's and 70's when it was more socially acceptable are now burdening the system with the inherent health problems that come with long term smoking. I think the scare campaign is being organised by the tobacco lobby who have always spent vast sums of money, both in the UK and the United states in order to keep tobacco legal and freely available. I used to work for an insurance company in the early 1990's that you may well have heard of. It was owned by B.A.T. - British American Tobacco, a massive conglomerate of hundreds, if not thousands of companies that had originally been founded on the vast profits to be made from tobacco. They owned hundreds of financial, transportation, manufacturing and retail companies on both sides of the Atlantic. Most of the investment had begun shortly before that when cigarette advertising and sponsorship began to be banned. Having just checked online, BAT made a revenue of 42.51 billion Pounds (Not dollars) in 2014. Tobacco is big business.
     
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    I'd say even abuses them. The world got overly crazy with the whole social media thing. However, I don't know anyone who died because of the excessive phone use.
     
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    In regards to the NHS, you could also say that the smokers are the ones that were paying the most into the NHS through their taxes and if everyone just suddenly stopped, the government would have to come up with a huge amount of money by itself so it's in their best interests to keep people smoking.

    As for BAT, there's no doubt the the tobacco industry is a huge global player and your almost talking in the same league as the Rothschild's family and the banks.
     
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    I mean, some things we only know the true effects after decades, but we aleady know tobacco is harmful and we do nothing about it and still conspire against vaping?
     
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    The funny thing about trying to identify certain things as propaganda based on your definition is that you are essentially recognizing that we live on a planet basing our lives largely on impulses and sudden, temporary ideas rather than deeper, more complex and evolved thought. It seems strange that we are so capable of recognizing fact from idea when it comes to small situations but not on a species scale. Totally not ready for space.
     
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    Well, to look at this way: everything is bad for you.
    The smog, the air, cigarettes, alcohol, fast food and yes, possibly vaping is somehow.
     
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    It's not the best thing for you, but there are certainly worse things you could be doing to yourself. Compared to other activities that people participate in everyday, vaping is pretty low on the scale.
     
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    I see your point. Tobacco manufacturers and alcohol manufacturers own the scene. They can manipulate the people because they are rich and powerful. That's why they are scared of vape companies because no matter how little they are, they are game changes. More people are knowing about them and about their benefits. And this has changed the game for the cigarette companies. And the government, as a past of this game, is also scared because they do get a lot of taxes from these companies. It's no wonder they cannot even implement imposing graphic warnings on the cigarettes here.
     
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    At the end of the day, you can't really romanticize vaping. Regardless of it being better than cigarettes or not, we are still choosing to do something that our body isn't really meant to do. We weren't meant to inhale vapor and flavorings. It isn't necessarily bad for you, but it isn't good either. I doubt it's as bad as the articles you're reading, though. I think it's best to just take every article with a grain of salt.
     
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    Vaping is definitely better than smoking. If you get their root words, which are vapor, and smoke, you would instantly know the reason why the other has fewer risks. Another point is that Vaping costs are actually cheaper than smoking. Vaping is cheaper and safer than smoking. It's no wonder there are a lot of negative publicities to vaping, as it poses a threat to the traditional tobacco industry.
     
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